Showing posts with label LCR Eq. Show all posts
Showing posts with label LCR Eq. Show all posts

Oct 7, 2024

STC 5A/152M variation on a theme

There was no objective reason to modify the good-working RLC E83F phono preamp except this insatiable curiosity, which is mine. In fact, there is one, and it is a corollary to the development of the 5A/180M phono preamp. When I bought this tube, I also, unreasonably, bought some 5A/152M because I found these ones good looking, were manufactured by STC, and at a very affordable price. Once the 5A/180M preamplifier was completed, the results were so satisfying that I wondered if all the STC tubes were as interesting, and I immediately thought of the ones lying dormant in my stock.

It took me about two minutes to find the 5A/152M datasheet and start drawing several load lines. And about the same time to understand that at equivalent load the gain was close to that of the E83F. I also realized it adapts better to the transformer I use. There you go; the damage was done.

A short digression to say that the RLC correction is the only one that can restore with integrity the musical message as it was engraved. More complicated to implement, it has the enormous advantage of a constant impedance vs. frequency, which is not the case with an RC network. The main difficulty is the 600 ohm load, a real challenge for the driver. I choose the classical transformer coupling solution; although expensive, it insures the RIAA network an almost perfect loading. The only drawback is the 300 ohm load seen by the second transformer. This has to be taken into account in the gain calculation.

No compromise during this complete overhaul; I completely stripped the board to leave a clean and empty place. It allowed me to punch a larger hole for the STC valve socket and therefore redesign the whole wiring.

I spent some time finding the best implementation to overcome the hum/noise inherent to pentodes. Must note that this tube has a lower noise equivalent resistance than the E83F (670 ohm vs. 750), which places it in the same league as a C3g. Good point.

I used shielded wires in the signal path, and it effectively reduced hiss. Another necessity is a VERY low ripple HV supply because 5A/152M gain is high and any unwanted hum will be greatly amplified. Grounding is critical and probably the most important point to achieve a quiet preamplifier. Each stage has its own reference point, and the whole preamp is wired using multi-star grounds.

I constructed a regulated supply that is nearly identical to the one used in the 5A/180M RC phono. Just added a second network to floor ripple at about 500 uV prior to regulation.

Partition noise, in fact the only source of noise in this preamp, is only audible with potentiometers set beyond a comfortable level, almost fully clockwise. Will never go that far; music is really loud and painful. At realistic volume, this preamp is totally silent.

There are different ways to load the RIAA network, and after long listening tests, I personally prefer to set volume with a potentiometer next to the second transformer. Music gains clarity, and the mids/heights appear more refined. As a bonus, noise is significantly reduced.

Good: Classic 600 ohm loading.

Better: Reflected impedance by the transformer's secondary loading.

Regulated supply. Robust device with a 150 mA capacity.

This phono has such a gain it can be directly connected to the power amp. No need of a line preamp. Output impedance stays very low; this ensures very good adaptation with a wide bandwidth and great dynamic. Distortion is really good, 0,1% @ 1Vrms, 0,18% @ 3Vrms, mainly H2.

Of course, my memory is unreliable, but I sincerely think this one sounds better. The Philips/Tungsram E83F was on the clinical, dry side of music reproduction, while the STC 5A/152M appears more relaxed and realistic with a wide soundstage. This tube is full of life and air, never tiring with a clear and clean voice. Apart from the pentode noise that could be objectionable for some people, it’s a very enjoyable setup, and the final restitution can be set upon each taste with some tube rolling. From E80CC for a neutral and authoritative sound to 12BH7A for more mellow, fleshy music. I personaly use the Mullard M8136 with great pleasure.

In order to achieve a marginally better overall distortion (0.09% 1KHz 1Vrms), I swapped out the R12_R14 47K resistors in the second stage with 51K resistors.

My advice is to snag this affordable and easy-to-find gem while supplies exist. Good bottles tend to disappear quickly these days.

Garrard 301, Victor UA7082 tonearm + DL103 or Fidelity Research FR24 + EC30, Entré ET100 or Altec 4722 stepup transformers, 5A/152M phono plus a few other stuff beneath, 6A5G/R120 SE amplifier. Invisible, an Oyaide MJ12 turntable mat, worth the money.

Would be nothing without good vinyls....













May 10, 2022

LCR Phono preamplifier revisited

A few month ago I sold my E88C/E86C LCR Phono preamp, playing the recently build C3g/E182CC RC one. I soon realized I couldn’t live without. Not to say the C3g is inferior, it is the most enjoyable preamp I have today but I miss the absolute delicacy and sweetness the LCR had. My wish would be a preamp combining all qualities, even if everyone knows that the search for the ultimate phono, the one that brings pure enjoyment on any kind of music, is a never ending story.

Whatsoever, it didn’t take a long time before I decide to undertake a new one. New project, new interrogation. Is the final result a matter of network or tube choice, what has the most significant impact on sound reproduction ?

I personally think that active components, the way they are used, the dynamic behavior and the distortion figure under use conditions, have a much bigger influence upon sound than the EQ itself and decided to keep the same approach than in the RC phono, a first stage pentode instead of a triode.

Fortunately, when cost was in par with my wallet, I stocked a few transformers and can build a complete unit with the same irons previously used in the E88C LCR phono. Just had to buy new RIAA EQ sets.

Temptation was great to use the same tubes with the benefit of an A/B comparison, but the C3g gain would have been too high especially on a 20K load. I had to find a substitute with equal qualities and not too exotic. The search for the (almost) perfect equivalent took some time and I finally stopped on the E83F. A high Gm pentode, easy to source, apparently low distortion, low noise and primarily developed for class A audio applications in telephone repeaters. Surfing the Web I discovered it has been used in the last stage of the iconic TAB Telefunken V76 microphone amplifier. Choke loaded and capacitor coupled to the output transformer (full shematic here). This preamp has a reputation of excellence. A serious reference and a great encouragement for my project.

First stage

Beyond the basic DC study from datasheets, my old HP dynamic analyzer was of great help to set the best operating point and get a similar harmonics distribution than the C3g. Once done, gain is close to 160 with very, very low distortion.

Second stage

RIAA network plus transformers (A8713 20K/600 and TKS50 600/50K) has a 0.158 @ 1KHz overall gain which commands an amplification of 15 to get +45/+50dB. What immediately comes to mind is the 6SN7/12AU7 family of tubes. Having a good supply of miniature double triodes, it was obvious to give them a try.

From the dozen references tested I only kept six. All have outstanding performance, with a personal preference for Mullard M8136/CV4003 and Tungsram E80CC. These two fine tubes are just followed by Siemens 5814A triple mica and RTC 5814A. The others (Sylvania 6072A & GE 12BH7A) being slightly less involving while keeping all other qualities like great tonal balance, wide soundstage and lifelike restitution. Distortion was a bit higher with the12BH7A and 6072A had too much gain and a forward presentation.

DC point is set according to manufacturer recommendations. Below the E80CC setup, identical for M8136 and 5814. The 12BH7A needs a lower bias resistor



Schematic is very similar to the full triodes preamp

Note: LCR network can be either feed or loaded by 600 ohm, in any case you have to remove one 600 ohm resistor ( R4 or R12 ), this ensures network to work properly. Thanks to Bruce B. who pointed out this issue in my schematic.

Supply, parts and making of

Wishing to keep this phono as close as possible to the first one, at least in design, I calculated a double choke C input supply. For basics refer to the EC88 LCR phono supply post.

R7 serves two purposes: draws the necessary current to set DC voltage and acts like a crude shunt regulator.

Just one capacitor in signal path and another in G2, its choice will greatly influence final balance. Not really fan of mellow or colored restitution, I prefer a neutral sound, less appealing but more realistic. A few, very few caps have such ability and they are not super exotic, fancy, expensive…. ITT PMT/2R and relatives like LMT, Aerovox V161 (polyester, used in original Pultech equalizer) are close to that ideal. Finally choose the PMT/2R, a long time favorite. Thanks to Jean Hiraga.

During the first listening test I noticed some hum, about 2mV, a bit annoying. This is a recurrent problem with pentodes (partition noise & HV supply ripple) and to fix this issue I replaced Rg2 carbon resistor by a metal film one and added a hum cancellation capacitor in parallel. Calculation is tedious (RDH 4th Ed. p539) for precise cancellation and usually not a standard value. I used 0.15uF for 0.192 calculated and got 0.3mV residual noise. Inaudible at listening distance and barely discernible close to the speaker, I can now run intensive listening tests. Also added a 22K grid stopper.

inside PSU

Mullard 5Z4GY rectifier is the best performer in my system, great presence with deep bass.

Phono completed

E83F soft glow

Measurements

First observation, the preamp have a great dynamic potential and huge headroom. With 80mV input signal I got more than 30V peak/peak with no sign of clipping. Couldn’t go beyond because my scope was on the lowest selectable sensitivity.

Next step was a THD test. Just have a look at the pictures to see how good this preamp is. Considering signal generator + dynamic analyzer total harmonic distortion (~ 0,014%) this phono exhibit 0,021%@1V rms, mainly H2 (H3 being almost at background noise level).

At 5 Vrms distortion is only 0,18% with the same harmonics distribution. Not that bad…

Listenning report

Even if the E83F deserves an A+ whatever the brand, I found the Tungsram more attractive. As for the E80CC used in the SRPP line preamp, just two manufacturers for this fine pentode : Dutch group Philips ( Mullard, Valvo, RTC, Amperex …) and the Hungarian one. Not as glamorous as Mullard or Telefunken, Tungsram tubes are of excellent quality and completely underated.

Sound is well focused, tonally correct and ample. Less punchy than the C3g but still offering a very detailed and vivid sound. Most obvious qualities are clear (could be dry depending upon second stage tube - Sylvania 6072A) and clean, different of the E88C/E86C combo which, in my memory, was softer and less analytical. This is probably due to a more euphonic sound in a full triode setup. Pentodes are by far more neutral and I understand Telefunken choice for the V76 mic preamp when it is crucial to catch the sound during a performance with a total neutrality. The E83F is an uncompromising tube of exceptional transparency. When I compare to the C3g, the E83F appears slightly less seductive but certainly the most truthful.

After several hours of attentive listening this preamp is an excellent performer on philharmonic music, big band, human voice, cello solo and organ, but not only. It is the only phono that makes me hear or feel the recording studio acoustic. The 2nd stage tube that remains the best (balanced, detailed, neutral) on any kind of music is the Tungsram E80CC.

One drawback, you need top-notch drivers otherwise listening tends to be boring or tiring. Had the not so good idea to set the JBL 2470 in place of the Altec 288C in my homebrewed speakers. Will never do it again. Every improvement highlights mismatches and weaknesses.

vinyls, vinyls forever.....